Skepsos's skepsis

Easy wrath?

Posted in Skepsos by skepsos on March 4, 2010

If I am really such a pervert, why doesn’t god punish me NOW, instead of waiting for me to be dead and defenseless?

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  1. bencrayton said, on March 2, 2010 at 23:18

    Technically you are defenseless now, in contrast to the supposed power of God. Watch out for lightning bolts.

    Theologically, it is because of God’s mercy that you and I are not executed immediately. Nobody talks about God being merciful much anymore. It is all about either Grace from the Christians and Power from the Atheists.

    • skepsos said, on March 3, 2010 at 04:14

      “Nobody talks about God being merciful much anymore”
      But that’s not true is it?
      Christians (and other religions) say we can be ‘saved’ and go to heaven if we’re good.
      If not: we’ll be punished.
      I think that’s silly, to be punished after death.
      Just do it now, what’s the use of all that procrastination?

      • bencrayton said, on March 3, 2010 at 23:07

        The Christians I talk to say just the opposite, that we can’t go to heaven (be saved) for doing good.

        They say that we can never be as good as God, and to stop worrying about being “good enough” because we never will be.

        That is kinda disheartening, if we are worried about hell. According to them, and their Bible. We can’t earn our way into heaven.

        But, that is what I meant when I said that Christians talk about Grace. Grace is being given something we don’t deserve. People go to heaven not because they deserve it, but because God gives Grace to those who call him their Lord.

        I’m guessing the procrastination of punishment is to give us all time to stop trying to be good enough and embrace God’s grace. But, yeah, I am not sure why God does it? It makes sense if he wants to see more people “turn their life around” and go to heaven. But I get the feeling he doesn’t “need” more people to get to heaven.

      • skepsos said, on March 6, 2010 at 16:46

        Ah right! Yes, in the country where I live there’s a group of Christians who believe they are ‘the chosen ones’ (by birth) and all the others are doomed, also by birth.
        This makes me think: why do the chosen ones live on earth anyway then? Why not go to heaven straight away?
        But logic doesn’t help much here ofcourse…

        But a much larger portion here has a Calvinist origin, and their idea you have to walk the ‘narrow path’ in order to reach bliss is totally and completely running through our society in almost every way, non-religios ones as well.
        You can see it in small things: all our museums here have really high stairs in front of the entrance. So: you first have to suffer in order to reach the divine arts…


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